Saturday, November 1, 2008

More on Abortion & Obama

Barack Obama
Category: News and Politics

First to begin with:

The Washington Post on Barack Obama's extreme views concerning abortion writes:

"...Obama's record on abortion is extreme. He opposed the ban on partial-birth abortion -- a practice a fellow Democrat, the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan, once called "too close to infanticide." Obama strongly criticized the Supreme Court decision upholding the partial-birth ban. In the Illinois state Senate, he opposed a bill similar to the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which prevents the killing of infants mistakenly left alive by abortion. And now Obama has oddly claimed that he would not want his daughters to be "punished with a baby" because of a crisis pregnancy -- hardly a welcoming attitude toward new life. "--Washington Post, Obama's Abortion Extremism, April 2, 2008, by Michael Gerson, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/01/AR2008040102197.html

Barack Obama claims that a baby that survived an abortion and is outside of the womb is NOT a child:

"whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a -- a child, a nine-month-old -- child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it -- it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute."

In a lack of concern for children, Barack Obama in this case, not wanting to be stained with voting no, voted "present," rather than support the bill which would REQUIRED hospitals to recognize infants who survived abortions, were outside of the mother's womb as persons. A 'present' vote in the Illinois Senate is virtually the same as voting "no."

Obama's wife defended an abortive, if not infanticidal procedure, 'partial birth abortion' in a February 17, 2004 campaign letter for Barack Obama. 'Partial Birth abortion' refers to a procedure which the United States Congress condemned in 2003 as:

"an abortion in which a physician delivers an unborn child's body until only the head remains inside the womb, punctures the back of the child's skull with a Sharp instrument, and sucks the child's brains out before completing delivery of the dead infant -- is a gruesome and inhumane procedure that is never medically necessary and should be prohibited."--Partial Birth Abortion Act of 2003, http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=108_cong_bills&docid=f:s3enr.txt.pdf

Michelle Obama CONDEMNED Congress' decision as a "ban on a legitimate medical procedure." See here for a copy of the 1st page and 2nd page . What's legitimate about a procedure that punches a hole in the head of a baby and sucks its brains out?

http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htmAbortion reports that Obama:

* Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007)

Obama has also lied many times about his votes for abortion and infanticide, he condemned groups who asserted Obama voted for infanticide as "lying" saying the anti-infanticide legislation he voted against did not match the language of a federal bill, then later it was revealed it was practically verbatim the same and Obama was the liar.

Obama also falsely claimed that "although we have a president who is opposed to abortion over the last eight years — abortions have not gone down."

That was false, abortion rates did decline as reported:

"The Guttmacher figures also show that the decline in abortion has occurred during the Bush administration years as well, with abortions falling 8 percent between 2000 and 2005. The abortion rate fell 9 percent during those same years."

If Barack Obama wants to push for a government run universal health care system, then why not ban abortion and infanticide since the government will now pay to help the keep 'unwanted' babies healthy?

For more links which show Obama's record for voting for abortion and infanticide, and give links to government website on it see http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/02/links_to_barack.html

When Barack Obama was asked " "When does a baby in the womb receive full human rights?," he responded:

"... whether you're looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity ... is above my pay grade."

No one really gets why he said "above my pay grade" but its agreed he was saying 'I don't know.' This is just shows Obama is either 1)a liar playing to the audience, or 2)an absolute idiot.

As shown before Obama said babies in the womb have no rights, which the first quote I made showed. Obama is openly 'prochoice,' shouldn't the only logical thing for Obama to have said is that babies do not have rights at all in the womb. Obama left open the possibility that he is WRONG, and that the fetus is a person and should have rights, but Obama feels he is just playing it safe by allowing them to be murdered by abortion/infanticide

Barack Obama has accepted thousands of dollars from Planned Parenthood, an organization which promotes and procures thousands of abortions. What few know is that Planned Parenthood was started out by a white supremacist, Margaret Sanger, who refered to black people as "human weed." She openly was a member of the KKK:

"Always to me any aroused group was a good group, and therefore I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered." (Margaret Sanger: An Autobiography, P.366)

Her group was originally called the American Birth Control League, and is now Planned Parenthood.

Here are some more facts about abortion:

Roe v. Wade in 1973 made abortion a woman's right in the USA, the plaintiff was "Jane Roe" who sued Texas for the right to get an abortion. What few people know is that Jane Roe has since renounced what she did, and is against Roe v. Wade which ruled in her favor. Her real name is Norma McCorvey, and she even reopened the case to try to get the Supreme Court decision in her favor overturned (McCorvey v Hill) in 2004. She also admited that she lied when she said she was raped and needed an abortion.

Part of Norma McCorvey's argument to undo Roe v Wade and more towards banning abortion was:

1) women suffer "long term emotional damage and impair relationships for their decision,"

2) "that women may be affected emotionally and physically for years afterward and may be more prone to engage in high-risk, self-destructive conduct as a result of having had abortions,"

3) women at the abortion centers are rushed through the process and given "little or no medical or emotional counseling"

4) since Roe v Wade was passed that give woman and babies more help including adoption, and that unwed mothers are not ostracized as they were in the 1970s

5) science now shows the fetus responds to stimuli and pain sooner than believed in the 1970s (former abortionists admit to this, there are reports of babies pulling away from the grabs at babies)

McCorvey said also that she did not anticipate "abortions as a form of birth control."

In the United States about 1/3 pregnancies result in a surgerical abortion.

Every year 45 million of 175 million pregnancies result in abortion worldwide, that is about 26%.

Feminists:

The modern feminist movement has made the right to kill children a center piece in woman's rights. However, the original feminists from the 19th Century such as Susan B. Anthony, and Elizabeth Cady Stanton condemned abortion.

When asked whether or those who have abortions are guilty, and if there is any valid reason for an abortion Susan B. Anthony responded,

"'Guilty? Yes. No matter what the motive, love of ease, or a desire to save from suffering the unborn innocent, the woman is awfully guilty who commits the deed. It will burden her conscience in life, it will burden her soul in death,"

she then continues men must help prevent abortions or they themselves will be guilty

In the radical woman's rights newspaper, The Revolution, Susan B Anthony condemned abortion as "child murder."

A more recent feminists Graciela Oliverez, condemned those who upheld the right to abortion saying :

"To talk about the "wanted" and the "unwanted" child smacks too much of bigotry and prejudice. Many of us have experienced the sting of being "unwanted" by certain segments of our society … ."

19th Century feminists Elizabeth Cady Stanton shows the error in today's modern feminist movement:

"when we consider that women are treated as property, it is degrading to women that we should treat our children as property to be disposed of as we see fit"

Feminists and abortion rights advocates often refer to the children as being property by saying the child is part of the woman's body.

The following is a prolife feminists site that PROVES that the ORIGINAL feminists were AGAINST abortion and denounced it as murder:

http://www.feministsforlife.org/history/index.htm

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